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2009 GF5 Tournament Round 1: Alan Moore vs. Frank Miller

by E. Christopher Clark | Monday, March 23, 2009

Alan Moore vs. Frank Miller

In one corner, we have Alan Moore, who seems to absolutely despise when his comic book projects (Watchmen, V for Vendetta, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen) are turned into films. And, in the other corner, we have Frank Miller, who seems like he would turn the doodles he did in first grade into a movie if the price was right (films based on his work include Sin City and 300). Each man has a rabid fanbase. Who will win? You decide. Vote now!

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Jeremy Couturier says:

Hmmm back in the day Miller could do no wrong. His work on Bats and Daredevil (my personal fav) and Sin City are stuff of legend and changed comics. Moore rebooted Swamp Thing and craetd frickin John Constantine, my other fav, helped create the Killing Joke and of course that little known mini-series call Watch something. As well I love Moore’s more recent works such as Top-10 (sweet). Miller seems to be losing steam this decade honestly. Also he tarnished Will Eisner’s memory with the mess that was “The Spirit” (my first comic book store purchase ever). So the edge goes to Moore by a hair.

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E. Christopher Clark says:

I voted Miller just because I’ve read more of his stuff and enjoyed just about all of it. But I haven’t read anything recent, except for All Star Batman and Robin, and that… well, that is so, uhm… it’s so something that I think he just must’ve been on drugs, and so I’m giving him a pass.

Sin City was one of the first yarns I read outside of superhero comics that really got me, so Miller will always hold a special place in my heart.

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Octo-Bob says:

Frank Miller, no contest. Alan Moore was a clever hack hired only as an intended momentary Frank Miller substitute. That didn’t happen, needless to remind you readers. Also, I’ve always found Moore never tried to understand his audience or even the material or the medium he was trying to write for them. Frank Miller does that without effort. It’s his talent. Alan Moore tends to have his own set upon goal in using the comic medium to preach what he wants the reader to eventually think, by making assumptions of whatever his reader is and may be thinking. Frank Miller could do that if he wants to but he doesn’t always have to rely on doing that as he is a much more sublime storyteller and character analyst and shows us what he’s got to give up front.

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Jeremy Couturier says:

Don’t get me wrong, I have as many Miller graphic novels as Moore’s and Miller is an artist and writer.
It’s telling that Moore has so many more movies made from his work than Miller. Until Watchmen all of them have been mediocre at best. There is a level of sophistication that Moore posesses that has allowed him to get better while Miller has stagnated. Check out Moore’s Top 10 about a police precinct in a city where everyone has superpowers. It has great stories and characters that only Moore could create. Also it has tons of inside geek jokes and terrific art atypical of the genre.

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Jeremy Couturier says:

Im just saying that Moore is a more complete and effective storyteller, thus so many of his works being made into movies. This is even without his involvement. I think The Spirit revealed the limits of Miller’s work as his dialogue and story telling suffer outside the comic format. I remember dragging my friends to Robocop 2 back in the day because Miller wrote the screenplay. A sad moment in my life, it was terrible.Even Sin City would be a bad attempt at film noir without the art of Miller to hold it together. Maybe it’s because Miller embraces the geekiness of the superhero genre, and Moore wants to just write stories that happen to be told in comics format. They are just two different people obviously with different agendas. More gasoline on the fire!

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Octo-Bob says:

Titles by Moore get made into movies as often as they do because Moore doesn’t own any of them. Frank Miller is an industry by himself and the greatest of comics character narrators and storytellers of the two and among the greatest ever. Moore disassociates himself with any of the movie adaptations he does not own, and he hasn’t done anything of any value or substance. Watchmen, like his movie adaptations, have not been spectacular successes. Time-Warner is still hurting from all the investment they poured into the Watchmen series becoming the next Batman, which I shouldn’t have to tell you it never became, and from the investment they made in Moores becoming the next Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, which obviously never happened, either. The movie may or may not help them with that. Comics aren’t books, and Moore does not like comics, as has been so eminently recorded. Moore writes about America as though it were Dickensian London, England. Fail whale. Robocop 2 was the best of the Robocop series, and it was amazing!!!! Frank Miller was the reason for Sin Citys existence and, in large part, its success. He’s American, he can film noire if he wants to. He knows how. No gasoline. All electric here, baby. Fire-proof!!!!

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Jeremy Couturier says:

Robocop 2 was the best of the series….I know that’s you typing this Miller…stop arguing with me and get going on bringing the Born Again graphic novel to the big screen. You can’t direct it though, and please no Ben Affleck. And seriously if your going to have Jessica Alba play Nancy in what was the best part of That Yellow Bastard you would have the deciency to stay true to the source material! Don’t make me steal your funny hat collection….:)

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Octo-Bob says:

Nope. You got it wrong. I’m not Frank Miller. And I’m right about everything. Ben Affleck and Jessica Alba were very well cast. I’d like to see a shot by shot cinematic adaptation of Frank Millers Daredevil. Well, it’s his source material to stay true to, whether he wants to or not. There’s one hat I’ve seen him wear that looks quite striking on him.

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Jeremy Couturier says:

Did you actually read any Sin City? or you felt it was fine to have a non nude Jessica Alba gyrating on screen…instead of the what Miller actually depicted? I don’t think you’ve read any Frank Miller…or any comics at all. But I’m sure you’ve seen 300 five thousand times…Don’t make me leave my mom’s basement and school you;)

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Octo-Bob says:

Oh, please. So you’re a british viral marketer, then, pushing the Watchmen crud. I’m not going to have sex with you. I bought and read FF#3 when it was first published, subscribed to The Incredible Hulk when Herb Trimpe drew it and was around when Saturn Girl and Chameleon Boy had a fling. FF means Fantastic Four, by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, whom you have never heard of, I can gather by your response. I own the first hardcover editions of Year One and Dark Knight Returns, which I bought when they were published, and bought every issue of Franks Daredevil run when they hit the comic stores. I’m not british. Trojan men don’t do it for me. Do I write like I am? No. My mom would school you first.

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Shawn says:

Just to throw in my thoughts: Alan Moore destroys Frank Miller. I could write a rather lengthy list of reasons, but I’ll just sum up: Miller has lost it. He introduced freaking ninjas to Robocop, brought us the “goddamn” Batman, Dark Knight 2, etc. At least when Alan Moore’s cheese slid off his cracker, he brought us porn.

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