“How does fake poo warrant an NC-17?”

Earlier this month, Salon’s Stephanie Zacharek interviewed Kevin Smith at the Toronto Film Festival. The broad topic, of course, was the TFF premiere of Zack and Miri Make a Porno, but what’s really great about the interview is when they get into the specific topic of the NC-17 appeals process. I’ve written previously about one of the scenes that the MPAA was demanding that Smith trim, but it turns out there was an even more “disturbing” shot that had to be dealt with, this one involving, well, poo.

Zacharek explains:

[T]he MPAA expressed its extreme displeasure with several scenes in the movie, including what Smith blithely refers to as “the shit shot.” (To explain it here would give too much away, so all you need to know is that the gag involves an unusual camera angle and—I’ll leave the rest to your imagination.)

And later, Smith elaborates on how things went down:

...for the shit shot, I cited “Trainspotting,” when they whip the sheet, and the shit goes all over the family. And I also cited “Jackass,” which was a weird pull, but it was congruous to some degree, because I said, “Look, when ‘Jackass’ was an MTV show, there were tons of articles about how kids were imitating it, and winding up hurting themselves. Then it became a movie, an R-rated movie, in which there’s a sequence called the Fart Helmet, where Steve-o is wearing this bubble helmet on his head, with a hose attached to it with a funnel. And his buddy’s farting into the funnel, which goes into the headpiece, and Steve-o starts throwing up. Then his friend shits into the funnel, and you see it at one point.” And I’m like, “‘Jackass’ is more of a documentary than anything else. What they’re doing is real. That got an R. Clearly, what we did is unreal. It’s fake poo all the way. And how does fake poo warrant an NC-17, versus real poo getting an R?”

Somehow that worked. They flipped it. We left the room, and about five minutes later they came out and said that we won.

Honestly, every new bit of information that I learn about why the MPAA gave Kevin so much of a hassle this time around makes the whole thing seem even more ridiculous to me. Okay, so there’s a shot involving poop. And there’s a sex scene between Jason Mewes and Katie Morgan that’s a little more than over-the-top. But this is the same ratings board that gave Clerks II, with its donkey show, an R right out of the gate. And it’s the same committee that, as Elizabeth Banks so eloquently put it, routinely grants Rs to movies “about people cutting off each other’s limbs and blood gushing everywhere.” What is the big deal?

It’s all about the title, isn’t it? Had this movie been called anything else, I’m guessing it wouldn’t have gotten nearly as much shit for it’s shit scene (and its sex scenes) as it has.

Oh well. The nice thing about all the press that’s coming out about the film now is that the reviews have been uniformly positive. So that’s good. I can’t wait for October 31 to get here, so that I can see for myself what all the fuss is about. How about you?

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“Zack and Miri” Will Be Rated R

Kevin Smith’s next film, Zack and Miri Make a Porno, which stars Seth Rogen and Elizabeth Banks, will be rated R after all, according to the Associated Press. As you may recall, the film was originally rated NC-17 by the MPAA. It was only on appeal that this porno was granted clemency.

Kevin explains the controversy to the AP:

“They felt it was rather sexually graphic. My point is, it was comically graphic. All the sex in the movie with the exception of one scene is very cartoonish, very campy,” Smith said. “It wasn’t designed to titillate.”

I’d like to echo the sentiments of the guys over at News Askew and congratulation Kev and Mosier on the win. The fact that they didn’t have to make any additional cuts to get the rating that they wanted is huge. I’m sure the fact that they’ve got one of the biggest stars in the industry right now (Rogen) as their lead didn’t hurt—After all, the MPAA wants a healthy industry first and foremost, right? And how would limiting the audience of a Seth Rogen movie with an NC-17 help business?—but I’m sure that the View Askew team put together an excellent case for the appeals board, as well.

Meanwhile, Seth Rogen is chatting about Zack and Miri (among other things) in this new interview with Ain’t It Cool News’s Capone (conducted at this year’s San Diego Comic Con). Check out this choice quote:

Capone: This might be a stupid question, but is there a lot of nudity in it?

SR: Yeah, there’s nudity in it. Katie Morgan is in it. She doesn’t own clothes [laughs].

Me and a friend were talking about Rogen not sounding very excited about the film recently, but this interview certainly disproves that theory. Maybe he’s just been so wrapped up in promoting Pineapple Express, which comes out today, that he hasn’t had time to even really think about Zack and Miri. Here’s hoping that his enthusiasm for the project continues to shine through in future interviews. Kevin and company need an excited and publicly visible star out there for them on this one. It’s going to take a lot to convince America to go watch Porno in a public place (we know they’ll do it in a private place, but that’s not the issue) and we need Rogen out there promoting the hell out of this one as we near the release.

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MPAA Rates “Zack and Miri” Near-Pornographic

Zack, Miri, and Kevin Smith really are making a porno, at least according to the Motion Picture Association of America.

According to The Hollywood Reporter and various other sources, the fight against an NC-17 rating for Zack and Miri Make a Porno is over, at least for now.

In the latest episode of the SModcast, Kevin Smith elaborates a bit on what this means for the future of his next flick. News Askew, as always, has a good summary:

After several attempts to make cuts, the guys accepted the rating of NC-17 and are now under the formal appeals process, as Kevin no longer has any cuts he wants to make. At the first screening, the film ran 1:45 and got the NC-17. Still having cuts to make anyway, Kevin knocked 12 minutes out, resubmitted, yet the MPAA deemed two scenes still too dirty for the “R”. One shot is a half a second (14 frames of film) and Kevin hates to take it out. It’s that good (but may also be the sticking point for the board).

According to News Askew, the appeal screening happens this weekend. So, if you’re a Kevin Smith fan at all, please do keep the guy in your thoughts. An NC-17 rating means certain death at the box office—newspapers won’t take your ads and many theaters won’t show your film—so let’s hope we get the film Kevin wants us to get, without any of the cuts he doesn’t want to have to make. He’s won appeals before (with Clerks and, surprisingly enough, with Jersey Girl), so let’s hope that, this third time around, he’s still charmed.

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